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Ulster Plantation c.1580 as a model for US colonies.
« on: March 19, 2012, 03:45:12 PM »
This is fascinating because the British used it as an 'experiment' for future colonization.
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Re: Ulster Plantation c.1580 as a model for US colonies.
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2012, 08:44:41 PM »
Ok.....
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Re: Ulster Plantation c.1580 as a model for US colonies.
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Re: Ulster Plantation c.1580 as a model for US colonies.
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2012, 05:02:30 AM »
I'll expand further.  Still reading about it.
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Re: Ulster Plantation c.1580 as a model for US colonies.
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2012, 09:19:25 PM »
Most of the examples used in Ulster (pre-William III) were implimented in the early Jamestown colony.  Both colonies were disasters at first and English attempts at government and order failed.  They tried miltary-style government and it didn't work in Ulster so they knew it wouldn't work in the Chesapeake colonies.  They were both successful after the British instituted their form of governance and society.  Ulster was still under a feudal system and the English established shires and parishes and local governments made up of either British or Irish lordships.  The British had a strict but not too followed policy of English-only language as well as culture. Even though the natives refused to give up their culture, they still adapted to a British "way" and the British became more tolerant of their culture and religion.   
In the Chesapeake colonies, there really weren't any communities at first and British sources described it as disorderly.  But since most of the earlier settlers were English it was easier and more familiar for them to follow British law and culture once that was instituted. 
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