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Wally:
Having pulled the plug on my CL account I can't comment on the current discussion of faith alone being enough for salvation (w/o good works); seems to me this was one of the gripes Luther had in the first place. What about the old and poor that cannot (thru not fault of their own) cannot do the good works some would require? faith and the acceptance of Chris should turn the trick, or so I was taught.

Comments?

Wally

Phidippides:
I would think that intent to do good works would be sufficient, as the act itself cannot always be accomplished.  It's actually my understanding that the disagreement among Protestants and Catholics that revolved around the faith alone/faith & works issue has basically been resolved.  Perhaps this is not true on the level of each individual, but theologically the sides have found that they believe essentially the same thing (this is according to what I have heard and read). 

skiguy:
You can't earn your salvation.  It is given to you by God.  You have nothing to do with it.  Good works is how you can tell if you are actually saved.  (that's what  I  believe anyway)

Wally:
Understood; isn't, however, faith and acceptance of Christ enough to get the gift?

Yes... I also understand that the evidence of salvation (ala Calvinism) has been the good works and success that one displays in life (family, church, community). Hence, the very fact that one has / displays faith must therefore be the evidence of salvation, eh?

DonaldBaker:

--- Quote from: skiguy on October 10, 2007, 04:41:03 AM ---You can't earn your salvation.  It is given to you by God.  You have nothing to do with it.  Good works is how you can tell if you are actually saved.  (that's what  I  believe anyway)

--- End quote ---

I am of similar thought, but perhaps a bit more Calvinist in some things.

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