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November 18, 2006 at 3:53 am #405PhidippidesKeymaster
Saw a part of a History Channel show last night on Alchemy. In it they discussed the role of Nicholas Flamel in this field. The French Flamel, who was born in the early 14th Century, was alleged to have come across a book of alchemical recipes which he had difficulty in deciphering what appeared to be Israelite symbols. After many years, he was able to consult with a Spanish Jew who I believe traced them back to Abraham. Finally Flamel was able to decipher the recipe(s) – the recipe for the Philosopher's Stone which could change lead into gold and prolong life. As the legend has it, Flamel's later years were spent using his money to help the poor - money supposedly derived from his discovery. He lived into his 80s, which was quite a feat back then. The story, however, does not end there. Some believed he faked his own death and lived on in secrecy, and in fact some books were published under his name after he was supposed to have died. People claimed they saw Flamel in later centuries - all the way up to an opera in London in the 1870s.So tell me - do you think the Philosopher's Stone is real? Setting aside the legendary tale of Flamel, do you think they were able to convert lead into gold even as far back as the time of the Israelites?November 18, 2006 at 5:36 am #7086DonaldBakerParticipant
I don't believe it. It's like the old story about the apostle that won't die until Christ returns. Just a fairy tale.November 18, 2006 at 7:17 am #7087PhidippidesKeymaster
The thing is that at the end of the show, I believe they said that they know it's physically possible to create gold (I think from lead or some other source), but I think only in nuclear reactors and at energy-intensive conditions. I wonder if the “ancients” found a way to heat certain elements and in certain conditions to modify properties. I think there's probably a subset of knowledge that they knew about that we might not – if only because we have taken a different approach to what we have learned.December 7, 2006 at 6:25 am #7088StumpfootParticipant
I dint believe it either. Thats not to say it's not possible, theres a long list of things we have now that people of that time would have thought fairy tales as well. But Elements are elements, you can combine them to make other things such as alloys but changing one element in to another is that possible with anything? I am no scientist nor am I responsible for the previous ramblings. 😀