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  • March 9, 2006 at 10:49 pm #133 Reply
    Phidippides
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    While there have been many significant inventors throughout history, I have included a list here in this poll.  Who do you think was the greatest?  Why? For background on inventions throughout history, click here to visit this good site I found.

    March 9, 2006 at 11:05 pm #5026 Reply
    jonnyjmboy
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    I voted for Thomas Edison.? I notice that some of your “inventors” were not actually people who invented machines, but concepts, i.e. Einstein, or people who often didn't build the things they invented, i.e. da Vinci.? If concepts count, then why not add Isaac Newton to the list for his invention of the calculus?

    March 9, 2006 at 11:20 pm #5027 Reply
    Phidippides
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    I had the same initial concern as you, but I decided to include some of those names because they did design inventions.  Leonardo, for instanced, did invent any number of products, even if they weren't all invented during his lifetime (see this article).  Also, Einstein's work on the atomic bomb qualifies as an invention of the highest caliber.  But your point is well taken – Einstein's inventions should be separated from his advancements in physics theories such as time, matter, etc.

    March 27, 2006 at 7:44 pm #5028 Reply
    WmLambert
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    No – not Edison… half the “inventions” at the Smithsonion under his name have patent numbers awarded to Nikola Tesla: AC current, Radio – y'know just a few little things. Margaret Cheney at http://www.pbs.org/tesla/dis/cheney.html talks about his eccentric behavior. Adrian Monk exemplifies Tesla's many compulsions.Read the story of the kids who studied Tesla and went to the Smithsonian and fought the system to have Tesla recognized: http://web.archive.org/web/20100414141130/http://www.ntesla.org:80/provide_p.11.html

    April 7, 2006 at 10:59 pm #5029 Reply
    WmLambert
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    I just reread the last link by Wagner, whose 3rd and 4th grade classes at Dicken Elementary School took on the Smithsonian and discovered what hypocrisy is all about. It is truly amazing how under-appreciated Tesla is. If you read this and don't immediately rescind your vote for Edison as the World's foremost iinventor, then there is something seriously wrong with you.

    April 11, 2006 at 7:19 am #5030 Reply
    kingjoey
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    I would have to say that Tesla was probably the best mix of genius and productivity.  Many of the others on the list either lacked the creativity or productivity.  Some like Einstein or DaVinci had tons of innovative ideas, but the technology didn't exist in their time to make it a reality.  I have an idea for an uncloggable toilet, but if it never gets built would I qualify as an inventor? 😀

    April 14, 2006 at 3:48 pm #5031 Reply
    jonnyjmboy
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    I would like to point out that tesla was half out of his mind, and believed that he could extend his life by giving himself electroshock therapy.  sure, he invented electrical engineering, and pioneered huge advances, but he was unstable to the point of insanity.  Also, I believe I stated that I would have preferred to vote for Isaac Newton, so let's not allow anti-Edison prejudice to cloud our judgement.  I will certainly grant that Edison received far more than his share of lucky breaks at the patent office.  also, if this is a question of inventing alone, then Tesla is by far less prolific than Edison.  Tesla's prominence as a discoverer of electrical applications is unmatched except for perhaps Faraday–but as this is a question of invention alone, edison has to remain my vote

    April 15, 2006 at 4:27 am #5032 Reply
    Phidippides
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    I am afraid that there's is a bit of chronological bias going on here.  Let me explain my (lone) vote for Heron of Alexandria (also spelled “Hero”).  I saw a show on him on the History Channel and was simply amazed at the man's genius.  He built these boxes which served the ancient Greek/Roman purpose of our modern television.  The boxes contained cut out scenes and characters that moved around (as in animation) through a hidden system of wheels and levers.  The scenes would change from one to another after a certain time had elapsed, such as during the course of a spoken story.  This Wikipedia entry also points to some of the inventions by this man that I saw on the show.  These include an ancient temple “vending machine” where water would pour out after inserting a coin; a water fountain/pool which would constantly replenish itself after some of the water was removed; and a simulated bird chirping machine.  A number of his inventions were used for religious or temple purposes, and they must have amazed all who came across them (even if they didn't know of the engineering behind what they were seeing).But perhaps Heron's greatest invention was a kind of steam engine, or “aeolipile”.  You can see a diagram of it here.  According to the show I watched, although Heron came up with this idea, he didn't really capitalize on it and I believe he died soon after making it.  I think that our conception of the steam engine wasn't put into use until the 18th Century.  However, can anyone imagine what it would have been like if Heron had survived long enough to apply his invention to a Roman cart or chariot?  Or think about a barbarian army facing a line of self-propelled Roman battle tanks.  This is one of those big “what ifs” of history that would have turned the tide of technology if it would have been realized.

    May 7, 2006 at 8:41 pm #5033 Reply
    WmLambert
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    Problem with Heron is that he existed in a time before science existed. He built things that were innovative – but they were not foundational, in the way that a microscope was when the science of microbiology was beginning….Or Tesla, who developed AC that began modern technology [i[per se[/i].

    May 7, 2006 at 9:08 pm #5034 Reply
    Phidippides
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    Problem with Heron is that he existed in a time before science existed. He built things that were innovative – but they were not foundational, in the way that a microscope was when the science of microbiology was beginning….Or Tesla, who developed AC that began modern technology [i[per se[/i].

    Well I guess it's two sides of a coin, then.  Whereas you see this as a detraction, I see it as an addition.  Since Heron arguably didn't have much “science” to rely upon, he was all  that much more of a trailblazer since he did it on his own.  However, I do think that he had to understand some of the basic principles of science in order to accomplish what he did.  I don't think it's any less of a feat to accomplish something without understanding the entirety of the science; I don't think that the Wright brothers understood all of the physics involved with aero-engineering when they built their first plane, but we don't think any less of them for it.

    July 10, 2006 at 2:02 pm #5035 Reply
    peterk
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    I voted for Da Vinci as he invented many handy things, as well as having the idea for many more. He never made one fundimental invention that changed the world, but a lot which made life just a wee bit easier, such as a device to rotate a bit of meat over a fire, so it no longer had to be done by hand. Other inventor are also important, such as whoever invented gunpowder or first person who managed to make fire.

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