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October 18, 2007 at 12:08 pm #891
Phidippides
KeymasterThere was a little blurb about the bad maneuver by the House to condemn the killing of over one million Armenians by Turkey in the First World War:
Supporters of the Armenian resolution took such risks for what is little more than a symbolic statement on something that happened 92 years ago. Then, 1.5 million Armenians died near the end of World War I. Armenians say genocide. Turkey says the deaths resulted from the war. Either way, the House resolution changes nothing in the historical debate except to establish an official House version of events under intense pressure from Armenian-Americans.
Politicians Judging HistorySo do people here agree or disagree? Was this a needless political act which only really hurts relations today? Or was it important as a matter of justice to bring this up?
October 18, 2007 at 12:42 pm #10081skiguy
ModeratorBad timing on the part of the House leadership. IMO, the genocide happened, it should be and has been acknowledged by most, but we need Turkey strategically, and our relations to the Arab world are improving, it's still very touchy. (isn' that what Democrats have been saying since 9-11? Yet they do this? 🙂Here's a short (well...not 80 pages long) commentary from CSIS.
October 20, 2007 at 9:32 pm #10082Wally
ParticipantThere was a little blurb about the bad maneuver by the House to condemn the killing of over one million Armenians by Turkey in the First World War:....So do people here agree or disagree? Was this a needless political act which only really hurts relations today? Or was it important as a matter of justice to bring this up?
Doesn't have to be labeled; neither did the systematic treatment of AmerInds during the 18th and 19th century, eh? Reminds me of Bill Clinton apologizing for slavery... a grandstand play, nothing more.
October 21, 2007 at 10:14 pm #10083H.H. Buggfuzz
ParticipantWhat good purpose can this serve?It only inflames tensions at a time when we need calm.
October 26, 2007 at 9:44 pm #10084Phidippides
KeymasterI haven't studied the subject so I don't really know the answer to whether it did in fact occur. I do realize this is a different issue than whether Congress should have made a statement on it.I did see this just today which is a response to allegations of genocide by a Turkish official in Britain.'There was no Armenian genocide'The last paragraph of it was interesting:
Finally, I want to draw your attention to the desperate plight of the people of Armenia, suffering from the dire economic conditions in the country which is self-isolated as a result of the intransigent attitude of the wealthy diaspora. I believe that the Armenians have become captive to their own lie of ?genocide? and every single support to the baseless Armenian allegations from the third parties will further cut their connection with the truth and prevent their integration to the West.
October 27, 2007 at 12:28 am #10085Wally
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