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Initial reports suggest he was somewhat religiously motivated, Hash Browns, Then 4 Minutes of Chaos. Unless of course it is customary for people to yell Allahu Akbar before gunning people down when you are a secular progressive mosque going Muslim. (Sarcasm intended). How much agonizing will we go through if this clown really did self-radicalize. I already here echoes in the media absolving him of blame because people were mean to him. I would not hold his faith against him unless he gave and would have and do rip a soldier I catch or hear harassing somebody in any way. That is not tolerated in the army that I know, but I am sure the media will jump on the absolution bandwagon because the army is full of Neanderthals anyway.
What I don't get is that we hear of governmental attention paid to preventing anti-Muslim “backlash” – a potential danger – yet we don't really hear about governmental attention to addressing Muslim anger/aggression that leads to stuff like this. I don't want people to start harming Muslims because of what happened, but at the same time I don't want non-Muslims to be “targeted” by government efforts because of what they “might” do. Seems like some people have their priorities mixed up.
If he was having problems I'm sure he could have transfered to the National Health Service, a fellow I knew did that a few years back when it became apparent that the military wasn't for him… allowed him to fulfill his committment and everyone was happy.
For what it's worth (American justise aside, in my mind this guy is GUILTY until proven innocent):Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists
I think it is going to be very interesting the more we learn about what this clown has been doing and who he has been hanging out with. I have to agree with Phid about the “backlash” thing, it seems odd to me that they worry about what we will to do American Muslims when it seems American Muslims have been the ones conducting all the attacks. Its a strange, strange, strange, strange world isn't it?
I think judging we shoudl be careful not to judge all American citizen Muslims, but I don't think that concern should take precedence over security and reality. It seems the O admin is more concerned with that than with national security. Profiling is just a fact of life that we have to accept.
Back to the sad truth that stereotypes exist for a reason; there is some (small though it may be) truth to them. :-
I dont think every Muslim is a terrorist. I do however think most Muslims support terrorism. Muslims run across the spectrum in their support for terrorism just like any other people and any other issue. That being said, with regards to terrorism, discretion is the better part of valor here. We do ourselves a disservice if we don't exercise a healthy dose of suspicion.
I dont think every Muslim is a terrorist. I do however think most Muslims support terrorism.
I don't think most Muslims support terrorism, but most terrorists are Muslims.
I dont think every Muslim is a terrorist. I do however think most Muslims support terrorism.
I dont think every Muslim is a terrorist. I do however think most Muslims support terrorism.
Which come first, the chicken or the egg?Either way tends to support my idea about stereotypes… neither of you ever say all, but the generalizations present would lead many to that conclusion. The truth is that some are terrorists and some support it… both unknownable numbers. We must know individuals to find out which catagory they are in.
I think there are situations in which generalities are called for. I am not stereotyping but making an observation based on my analysis of news articles and discussions I have had with Muslims.
I think there are situations in which generalities are called for. I am not stereotyping but making an observation based on my analysis of news articles and discussions I have had with Muslims.
Nor was I meaning that you were; your experiences (and study of the issues) are what others can and may use to jutify (in their own minds) the validity of a stereotype. I agree about generalities too… they allow us to begin to see patterns and organize information. We just need to know that there are always exceptions to the rule, as it were.
Racial profiling is just a sad fact of life. It is what it is, and Leftist social engineers need to accept this. It is not because we haven't learned from history, it is because it is a part of history that can still be applied today. Think Amer. Indians in Colonial America or the Japanese in WWII or illegal Hispanic immigrants. I would not want to be the one who has to make the decision where to draw the line, but there is no doubt that a line needs to be drawn somewhere and somehow.
I'm a fan of the basic what's wrong with this picture? mode. I spent many years fixing electrical-mechanical devices and doing preventative monitoring of systems; this was the best method… if it doesn't look right it usually isn't… worth the check either way.A late and lamented friend was a fish-cop (game warden to city folk) and told the story of the two couples fishing from a boat that he and his Lt. were patrolling. Our heroes saw nothing blatantly wrong but something just didn't feel right about these folks; as the turned their boat to go see the folks everyone reeled in and the two guys pulled up anchor and fired up the boat. Not any kind of cut and run just a calm putt-putt back to camp.By the time the wardens arrived at camp the ladies had adjourned into the tents and the gents were pouring a cup of coffee… they gladly showed their paperwork and were 100% on the up and up. The crime? The ladies finally (very sheepishly) owned up to having forgotten to bring theirs (apparently there had been some major recriminations with their hubbies over same and the hubbies were seeking to avoid stirring it up again). After citations and the reminder that providing paperwork that was dated before said citation would clear it all up with the judge one of the ladies asked my friend, “Warden, how did you know there was something wrong… we had the right number of poles and didn't run away, what made you suspect something?””Ma'am, between my Lt. and I, we have about 75 years of patrol experience.” ::)”Oh, my!” 😮
