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  • April 20, 2010 at 12:13 am #20466 Reply
    Wally
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    There are places in this country where if you tried to teach the tenants of Communism you would run the riskof being fired.  This is probably less true now than when I went to High School.  We were taught almost nothing about the beliefs of “the adversary” except that it was bad, un-American and we would probably be drafted to provide a shield against Communist ambitions to challenge our hegemony.

    Too true; one of those places was just up the road from where I grew up; the teacher in question prevailed but not w/o struggle and cost. Years later I ran into a guy that was in the class in question… her inflammatory statement? “Communism looks like a wonderful thing until you compare the reality to the concept.” Or words to that effect.

    Also:  Many people think George Orwell was a Communist just as many people think our President is not a citizen, ossibly a muslim and perhaps the anti-Christ.  I read most of Orwell's books and find his prose to be lucid and thought provoking.  Years ago there was a TV program with Jan Sterling and Edmund O'Brienin a teleplay of 1984.  Scared the living daylights out of me, but I did go and get the book which was even better if less scary.

    Not having read Orwell (sheltered life, eh?) I cannot comment. However, on the questions surrounding the President… JMO, mind you; Mom was a citizen so he is a citizen by birth (regardless of where Dad was from or where he was born for that matter… he has gone to christian churches for many years and says he is a Christian, I'm not going to ask him or anyone else to do a polygraph over an issue like that… he's got a long way to go to be the anti-Christ, Hugo Chjavez might like to be or which ever Ill Kim is running N. Korea but I'd have to vote for Bill Clinton as the a-C before I'd even consider Obama.

    April 20, 2010 at 12:16 am #20467 Reply
    Wally
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    Wally:  Your administrators are to be lauded and you are a brave fellow.  Kudos!

    Thank you, but very little to do with admin, I was about as far from the office as I could have been. Ag dept was further but not by much. Only time the admin cared what I did was when the union sent me to the bargaining table.   ::)[yes… I was a loose cannon  :o]

    April 20, 2010 at 12:59 am #20468 Reply
    willyD
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    Wally:  Your administrators are to be lauded and you are a brave fellow.  Kudos!

    Thank you, but very little to do with admin, I was about as far from the office as I could have been. Ag dept was further but not by much. Only time the admin cared what I did was when the union sent me to the bargaining table.   ::)[yes… I was a loose cannon  :o]

    Me too compadre:Remember this:I burn my candle at both ends, It will not last the night. But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends, It gives a lovely light.My students loved this–anarchists at heart!

    April 20, 2010 at 1:02 am #20469 Reply
    willyD
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    There are places in this country where if you tried to teach the tenants of Communism you would run the risk of being fired.  This is probably less true now than when I went to High School.  We were taught almost nothing about the beliefs of “the adversary” except that it was bad, un-American and we would probably be drafted to provide a shield against Communist ambitions to challenge our hegemony.

    I am a big believer in Sun Tzu's Maxim about “know your enemy”.

    Also:  Many people think George Orwell was a Communist just as many people think our President is not a citizen, ossibly a muslim and perhaps the anti-Christ.  I read most of Orwell's books and find his prose to be lucid and thought provoking.  Years ago there was a TV program with Jan Sterling and Edmund O'Brien in a teleplay of 1984.  Scared the living daylights out of me, but I did go and get the book which was even better if less scary.

    I have not seen the older film but I have seen the British version that came out in 1984(I used the Wikipedia link because Imdb always makes my computer crash).  It is especially important that people become familiar with Orwell because of the ubiquity of references to the book in popular culture, specifically Big Brother and the “War is Peace, Peace is War' bit.I don't think Obama is a Muslim or the Anti-Christ just a worthless president like Carter but slightly worse for being farther to the left and more collectivist.  I really think that he believes most Americans are too stupid to make their own decisions.  He tries to cover his contempt for citizens with lofty speeches and empty words.  It helps that he is a charismatic speaker but then, Hitler was charismatic too and not very good for his country either.  I am not comparing Obama to Hitler except in their Oratorical abilities.  I dont think Obama is quite as megalomaniacal as Hitler was, though sometimes I think he is just as dangerous in a different sort of way.  He is kind of like an evil Neville Chamberlain in his foreign policy and grasps for domestic control like Woodrow Wilson.

    April 20, 2010 at 3:02 am #20470 Reply
    Wally
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    Remember this:I burn my candle at both ends, It will not last the night. But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends, It gives a lovely light.My students loved this–anarchists at heart!

    Mine was this:”Out on the prairie one bright, starry night, They broke out the whiskey, and Betsy got tight. She sang and she shouted and she danced o'er the plain, And she showed her bare arse to the whole wagon train.”  😮

    April 20, 2010 at 3:58 am #20471 Reply
    willyD
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    Remember this:I burn my candle at both ends, It will not last the night. But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends, It gives a lovely light.My students loved this–anarchists at heart!

    Mine was this:”Out on the prairie one bright, starry night, They broke out the whiskey, and Betsy got tight. She sang and she shouted and she danced o'er the plain, And she showed her bare arse to the whole wagon train.”  😮

    My heavens.  I have fallen into a pit of uncultured barbaric  and right wing philistines–woe!

    April 20, 2010 at 4:11 am #20472 Reply
    Wally
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    My heavens.  I have fallen into a pit of uncultured barbaric  and right wing philistines–woe!

    Nope just a serious student of the Westward Movement; Benny DeVoto rocks, his trilogy is the best! Also a fan of Merk and Steckmesser (among others).–A miner said, “Betsy, will you dance with me?” “I will that, old hoss, if you don't make too free. Don't dance me hard, do you want to know why? Doggone you, I'm chock-full of strong alkali.”  😮

    April 20, 2010 at 5:20 am #20473 Reply
    willyD
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    My heavens.  I have fallen into a pit of uncultured barbaric  and right wing philistines–woe!

    Nope just a serious student of the Westward Movement; Benny DeVoto rocks, his trilogy is the best! Also a fan of Merk and Steckmesser (among others).–A miner said, “Betsy, will you dance with me?” “I will that, old hoss, if you don't make too free. Don't dance me hard, do you want to know why? Doggone you, I'm chock-full of strong alkali :oOh! were I a theist, I should rush to church and seek solace amongst the empty pews.  While there I wouldcontemplate this:

    April 20, 2010 at 2:20 pm #20474 Reply
    Wally
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    Uh… I don't think she got any of those from drinkin' bad water on the trail.  ???

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