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  • November 19, 2009 at 3:20 pm #1810 Reply
    skiguy
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    WITHOUT GOOGLING which president banned the infamous 'flying wedge' and why?

    November 19, 2009 at 4:03 pm #17254 Reply
    scout1067
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    My SWAG-Rutherford B. Hayes and because it was unfair.

    November 19, 2009 at 4:30 pm #17255 Reply
    Wally
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    TR.

    November 19, 2009 at 4:56 pm #17256 Reply
    skiguy
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    TR is correct.Not because it was unfair (both teams did it offensively and defensively) but because in one season alone (1905) this formation caused 18 deaths and over 125 serious injuries. It was banned after 33 deaths in the 1906 season.  The sport of football itself was almost banned at Harvard and Yale because of this strategy, but instead, rules were just revised. Wikipedia has it banned in 1894, other sources say it was banned after the 1906 season.  The International Rugby Union also banned the flying wedge around this same time.

    November 19, 2009 at 5:00 pm #17257 Reply
    Wally
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    I had used this for a starter in a history class; the thing that brought it to his attention was (I think) that a friend of his son was killed in one of those mishaps. Having ditched all the old files to clear space on the computer I can't tell you for sure….  🙁

    November 19, 2009 at 7:10 pm #17258 Reply
    scout1067
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    Your late nineteenth century reference threw me off.  I call foul on the question. >:(

    November 19, 2009 at 8:39 pm #17259 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

     I call foul on the question. >:(

    Oops, I meant to put it in early 20th.Well, not really, but that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.  8)

    November 20, 2009 at 4:46 am #17260 Reply
    scout1067
    Participant

    I would say the same thing  ;D

    December 15, 2009 at 7:30 am #17261 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    I don't really see why the “flying wedge” would be any more dangerous in football than any other formation.  I'm guessing it was used on kickoff returns.

    December 15, 2009 at 2:15 pm #17262 Reply
    Wally
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    Nope. It was a running play of the time; imagine the whole line locking arms and the back falling in behind as the line moves upfield.

    December 15, 2009 at 5:42 pm #17263 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    Oh…well that sounds like an idiotic play.  They more or less had to leave their entire frontside open if they were locking their arms with another player.  I'm sure it resulted in defenders simply throwing themselves in front of the mass of people.  It would never make it in the modern game…but it would be interesting to see it attempted!

    December 15, 2009 at 10:51 pm #17264 Reply
    H.H. Buggfuzz
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    They also sewed handles on each side of the runner's pants to drag him along

    May 7, 2010 at 6:34 pm #17265 Reply
    Aetheling
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    I wonder why in the US ppl keep calling soccer what is instead real football and are calling football what is in fact a kind of rugby ???Football is a game about a ball and foot whilst rugby it's about a ball and foot with hand-playing …

    May 8, 2010 at 8:47 pm #17266 Reply
    scout1067
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    I wonder why in the US ppl keep calling soccer what is instead real football and are calling football what is in fact a kind of rugby ???Football is a game about a ball and foot whilst rugby it's about a ball and foot with hand-playing …

    Mainly because we can and because despite being one of the biggest countries in the world we still can't field a decent World Cup team.  I will root for the US next month until they are eliminated and then root for Germany.  Of course, I never really paid that much attention to soccer until I married a German.I have to admit though, I still stay up until 2-3 in the morning to watch college Football in the fall and winter.  American football is just a more exciting game to me although I cannot explain exactly why.

    May 9, 2010 at 6:02 am #17267 Reply
    Aetheling
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    Mainly because we can and because despite being one of the biggest countries in the world we still can't field a decent World Cup team.  I will root for the US next month until they are eliminated and then root for Germany.  Of course, I never really paid that much attention to soccer until I married a German.I have to admit though, I still stay up until 2-3 in the morning to watch college Football in the fall and winter.  American football is just a more exciting game to me although I cannot explain exactly why.

    New World, New GamesI have to admit that the US national team did very well in the last Football World Cups, however let's see for the next Mundial in South Africa …  ::)

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