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Being a Marine for 4 years and being a bit of a history buff myself i came across a few interesting things about the midde east during this time period of world war I, After four centuries of continuous rule the Ottoman Empire basically came to a crumble and at this time the Ottoman Empire was considered to be the world’s strongest and greatest Islamic power, Well this is what started as we all know well today as military jihad or otherwise known as holy war. To think that during all this Germany was an allie to the empire. So i guess my whole point here is that if anyone has noticed that we seem to be getting more terrorist attacks in other countrys such as France, Russia and Great Britain. Well you can trace this all back to this time frame of World War I
Islam never forgets the past….no matter how far back in time the offense against Islam occurred. The Ottoman Empire by the time of World War I was nicknamed “The Sick Old Man of Europe.” It had seen its zenith in the 15th century and had been in decline ever since, but it took World War I to finally force its collapse. It only goes to show that all things must end someday, and even America will decline and crumble if given enough time. 😥
It is interesting how countries and regions get shaken up or consolidated every so often (I agree, Donnie – I think the U.S. could potentially fall as well; we should be weary of an aire of invincibility and should protect our border, economy, etc.).
What others, besides the Ottoman Empire, were changed after WWI? My knowledge of history leading up to WWI is a bit sketchy, but I understand that Prussia was a dominant force in Europe, I believe even up to the late 19th Century.
I don’t know if it can be traced back to WWI per se, but I think the current problems can be traced back (to a certain degree) to the post-war carve up of the Ottoman lands. This is certainly a factor. Iraq was cobbled together and drawn arbitrarily by Churchill and the Colonial office. Ditto Syria, Jordan, Lebanon to an extent (though this was given to the French) Saudi Arabia to a degree, and the rest. They never had a chance to settle their own boundaries, territories, create their own institutions, fight their own wars or do the other things that peoples and nations must do to at least have a chance to create a workable long term system. Now then, lest I sound like I’m too harsh of a judge, I realize that what was done was thought to be the best solution to the problems of the day, and I for one am at a loss to think of other, better solutions that preserved order and influence of the respective nations and the region as a whole. My 2 cents FWIW.
Prussia yes indeed was quite the super power for quite some time. I dont know all the much about how it came to be non exsistent anymore, well maybe some of the culture apects of it still exist, but it is amazing how these things do happen and sometimes all it takes is one man for many to follow. I would definitly love to hear more about this being that my nationality is Lithuanian and everything that happened to that country was part of the influence of Prussia. I admit even though that is my backround i really never did that much reading up on it. Maybe we can start a new thread off with this one since i may be jumping into a whole different thing here.
Prussia was the foundation of the Nation of Germany. This guy
Frederick the Great, started the Prussian enterprise. He fought the Habsburgs of Austria in the War of the Bavarrian Succession during the mid eighteenth century. By 1872, the Prussians were arguably the dominant military power in Continental Europe and actually defeated the French under Louis Phillipe (Franco-Prussian War) and took Schleswig and Holstein away from Denmark. The Prussian generals learned how to use railway transport techniques to muster their troops from the American Civil War. James Longstreet and Thomas Jackson were heavily studied as to understand offensive and defensive tactics. The Junkers (the Prussian military aristocracy) were the ruling elites who gave rise to Kaiser Wilhelm II who led the new nation of Germany into World War I. Cool stuff really. 😀All this has really caught my attention so i did a little research and found this, I know it's kind of long but it's good reading and can explain a lot as to what was going on during this time frame and not only with just Lithuania.The 16th century saw a more rapid development of agriculture, growth of towns, spread of ideas of humanism and the Reformation, and book printing. The emergence of Vilnius University in 1579 and the Lithuanian Codes of Law (the Statutes of Lithuania) stimulated the development of culture both in Lithuania and in neighboring countries. http://www.world66.com/europe/lithuania/history
So i guess my whole point here is that if anyone has noticed that we seem to be getting more terrorist attacks in other countrys such as France, Russia and Great Britain. Well you can trace this all back to this time frame of World War I
One attack each since our 9-11 is not really that much considering the curcumstances. And I have to question if the Russian attack, on that school which is what I'm assuming you mean, was really part of the “jihad” (man, I hate that word. It is sooo inaccurate) against the west anyway.What caused the Arabs to be angry? I think it's Britain not keeping their word. The Sykes-Picot Agreement was never really favorable to Arab independence (as was promised and is what they agreed to). The Arabs were under a mandate system from Britain and France. (combined with the internal Arab problems of kingship and authority)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherif_Hussein_bin_Alihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes-Picot_Agreement
Frederick the Great, started the Prussian enterprise. He fought the Habsburgs of Austria in the War of the Bavarrian Succession during the mid eighteenth century. By 1872, the Prussians were arguably the dominant military power in Continental Europe and actually defeated the French under Louis Phillipe (Franco-Prussian War) and took Schleswig and Holstein away from Denmark. The Prussian generals learned how to use railway transport techniques to muster their troops from the American Civil War. James Longstreet and Thomas Jackson were heavily studied as to understand offensive and defensive tactics. The Junkers (the Prussian military aristocracy) were the ruling elites who gave rise to Kaiser Wilhelm II who led the new nation of Germany into World War I. Cool stuff really. 😀
