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  • April 19, 2013 at 8:22 pm #28631 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    There's so much news to follow about this!  I don't know about the picture, but the reports came directly from the Mass St Police twitter account earlier this morning that they shot the other brother and he was run over. Whether that was by his brother or the cops I'm unsure.  My guess is he shot the MIT officer then the cops pursued and caught them (well, one of them) in Watertown and the suspect was shot dead on Dexter St. Boston.com has a map of where the incidents occurred here) of Dexter St. Zoom out and scroll down a little to the Charles River, and directly across the river is Community Rowing.  That's where I was last night.

    April 19, 2013 at 8:34 pm #28632 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    Question now becomes – was it a religiously-motivated attack, or a politically-motivated one?  Incidentally, I read through many of the 19-year-old's tweets over the past year or so, and he seemed pretty much like your typical American teenager; crass humor, disliking college food, not much about Islam, not much political stuff.  I am not sure how he got involved but did not seem like the type who would orchestrate this on his own initiative.

    April 19, 2013 at 9:39 pm #28633 Reply
    DonaldBaker
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    I don't think we are being told the whole story.  Why on God's green earth would you lock down a major U.S. city for one 19 year old kid?  It doesn't make sense to me.

    April 19, 2013 at 9:51 pm #28634 Reply
    scout1067
    Participant

    I don't think we are being told the whole story.  Why on God's green earth would you lock down a major U.S. city for one 19 year old kid?  It doesn't make sense to me.

    Absent a declaration of Martial Law I don't believe they can “lock down” a village, much less a city.  How compliant have people become if they think the police have the authority to forbid movement across such a wide area?

    April 19, 2013 at 10:09 pm #28635 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    Question now becomes – was it a religiously-motivated attack, or a politically-motivated one?

    If it's Islamic in nature it's both because Islam can't separate the two.My guess is he was influenced by his older brother who seems quite the jihadist according to his personal online records.And I think the reason they locked the city is because this is a terrorist cell of more than 2 involved.  They know something. I'm betting there are bombs or threats of bombs planted throughout the city. Why would they be doing a controlled explosion in a heavily populated street in Cambridge of the second kids apartment?  They evacuated UMASS Dartmouth, which is no where near Boston, to checkout the kids dorm.Either that, or they are embarrassed because a whole police force and then some let a 19 year kid escape from their grasp.I can understand if it was only the area where these two were intitially found but I'm surprised so many people are cooperating.  Some of the pics of downtown Boston today are eerie and apocalyptic looking.  Boston strong? No more like Boston sheep.  Maybe if they let the people out, they would find the kid. Or perhaps I should start listening to Alex Jones more and become more of a conspiracy theorist. Maybe this was a test by the Obama administration to show how easy it is for the Federal government law enforcement to takeover a major city.

    April 19, 2013 at 11:10 pm #28636 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    If it's Islamic in nature it's both because Islam can't separate the two.My guess is he was influenced by his older brother who seems quite the jihadist according to his personal online records.

    I wasn't sure if it was part of jihad, or if it was in some way meant to drag the U.S. into some Chechnyan political issues.  I just read that the older brother went to Russia within the last year or so, and he may have been there a while.  Also, I saw that he was married and I believe they lived somewhere in Rhode Island. 

    April 20, 2013 at 1:57 am #28637 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    Why would they want to drag us into some Chechnyan dispute? That's between them and Russia and Russia would never let us get involved.  I think this is all part of the global Islamic jihad against anyone who doesn't follow the Koran.  People can deny it or excuse it all they want, but that's what it is.  They just arrested 3 people in New Bedford, MA who are connected to this second kid.  Haven't followed up on it much so I don't know what that's about.

    April 20, 2013 at 2:19 am #28638 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    I have no idea why they'd want to do that.  Maybe to force Russia to deal with an international problem, rather than a more localized one.  Then again, I'm not sure why terrorists would pack bombs with nails to kill and maim innocent civilians in the U.S., and then not take credit for the action.  I'm really not sure why they'd want to do that after becoming U.S. citizens (at least one of them did) and having what seemed to be decent lives living in the U.S.

    April 20, 2013 at 4:14 am #28639 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    Well the streets of Boston are no longer empty.[html]

    That really escalated quickly. #LetsGoBoston vine.co/v/bUHWgpZxwmi

    — Ryan Belonger (@rbelonger16) April 20, 2013

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    April 20, 2013 at 8:08 am #28640 Reply
    scout1067
    Participant

    Well, they caught the second kid.  The Dailymail is reporting that they may have harbored Islamist beliefs so is the Washington Times.  Given their religion and ethnicity I find it difficult to believe that Islamist sentiment is not part of their motivation for the bombings.How much you want to bet this kid gets charged as a common criminal and any Islamist sentiment is downplayed or ignored in his prosecution?

    April 20, 2013 at 12:46 pm #28641 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    Quote from Freerepublic:”The almost non existent Obama during all this will suddenly show up and parade all the cops and investigators involved with this terror strike around DC town. The Media will gush about how well Obammy handled this situation, just like he had been there and caught the guy himself! Comparisons will be made between Bush's 9/11 and Obammys. Then the media “analysis” of what is wrong with America and how it turned an innocent little boy into a radical.”Sadly, I think this is what we'll be hearing from the media, especially that last sentence.  All I know is I followed the pursuit, but I am not at all interested in hearing the “analysis” of these two.Will they profile Muslims now? NopeWill the raid the mosque where that first dead terrorist attended in Boston? Nope.Will they now admit that Muslims hate America? NopeAll we'll be hearing is that not all Muslims are like this blah blah blah and that the war between Islam and everyone else is everyone else's fault.

    April 20, 2013 at 3:15 pm #28642 Reply
    donroc
    Participant

    What % of Muslims are Jihadist and their supporters?Only 10% = 150,000,0001% = 15,000,0001/10th % = 1,500,000All enough to cause plenty of damage world wide.And because Islam = submission to the will of Allah, we have plenty of nasty Imams preaching Allah's will is hatred of all infidels. Not a pretty future ahead in our USA of PC and fear of profiling.

    April 20, 2013 at 4:45 pm #28643 Reply
    scout1067
    Participant

    I was listening to Ed Schultz this morning on the way to work (it is all I get on AFN) and he had Bennie Thompson (D) Mississippi, the ranking democrat on the committe on the air.  They first talked about the manhunt and then the congresscritter started talking about how we may need to look at what methods, if any, people's liberties need to be modified in response to this attack.  What really got me was Thompson started saying that we needed to use the list put together by the Southern Poverty Law Center to target hate groups for special attention.  This despite the fact that we now know the brothers were/are Islamists.  I see a massive amount of using tragedy as opportunity coming out of this, much like they tried to do with Newtown and gun control.  I also heard some discussion later on the news that there is apparently some method whereby a Citizen’s 5th Amendment rights can be revoked.  I was not aware of this, has anyone else heard this?[font=verdana, sans-serif]I was also especially sickened by Obama’s statement where the hand-wringing about why they hate us is already starting.  This bombing and the aftermath are already starting to be politicized.[/font]

    April 20, 2013 at 5:04 pm #28644 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    The Left are the bigger threat to this country and the world than anything else. Ed Shultz is an idiot. We have an opportunity as a nation to turn now. Do we still listen to the Obama worshippers and these morons on MSNBC or do we start showing some common sense now?  I'm not holding out much hope.

      I also heard some discussion later on the news that there is apparently some method whereby a Citizen’s 5th Amendment rights can be revoked. 

    Miranda rights are not necessary because it's some public safety exception.  Anything this guy says or admits to is submissible in criminal or any court.  To me that's a good thing and also shows that Federal authorities defined this as a terrorist attack – as they should have.  I'm wondering if they will treat him as an enemy combatant or if this is just going to be tried in a criminal court.  We shall see.Now that this is over it's back to targetting white, Christian, gun-owning, right-wing, veterans. Sickening.

    April 20, 2013 at 5:17 pm #28645 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    If Odumbo showed as much fortitude and anger towards Islamists as he does Republicans, he could actually be a pretty good president.But I doubt this will happen. It's back to disarming Americans, forcing Catholics to hand out free abortion pills,  and marrying queers.  That's more of a threat to him, the Left, and most Democrats than anything else.

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