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  • October 18, 2009 at 8:21 pm #1771 Reply
    skiguy
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    Minnesota that is.  6 & 0.  BRETT FAVRE!!!!  Are they going to the Superbowl?

    October 18, 2009 at 8:39 pm #16818 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    Yeah, let's hope so.  😀

    October 19, 2009 at 7:29 am #16819 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    One historically-relevant point – do you know why the Minnesota team took the name “Vikings”?  Doesn't that seem odd?

    October 19, 2009 at 10:24 am #16820 Reply
    scout1067
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    Because of the large population of people of Scandinavian descent?

    October 19, 2009 at 11:22 am #16821 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    That would be my guess too.

    October 19, 2009 at 4:00 pm #16822 Reply
    Wally
    Participant

    The team was officially named the Minnesota Vikings on September 27, 1960; the name is partly meant to reflect Minnesota's place as a center of Scandinavian American culture.

    From Wikipedia.

    October 19, 2009 at 5:41 pm #16823 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    Yes, the Scandanavian heritage of the area is probably one of the reasons for the name (though it seems like there were more Germans than Scandanavians who settled in the area).  I bet that another reason for the “Vikings” team name is because of the Kensington Runestone, an inscribed tablet unearthed in 1898 in Minnesota and claimed to be from Vikings in the area from the 14th century.  However, the tablet has also been described as a fake.http://www.alexandriamn.org/index.php/community/history_page/the_runestone_timeline/

    October 19, 2009 at 5:59 pm #16824 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    Was looked at some Viking geneology and just discovered this mythological lineage:Odin


    >   Thor


    >  FavreKinda thought that was interesting. ;D

    October 19, 2009 at 10:05 pm #16825 Reply
    Wally
    Participant

    ….  However, the tablet has also been described as a fake.

    Recent History channel show indicates evidence that it may not be a hoax.

    October 20, 2009 at 12:13 am #16826 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    So you had already known about it from the History Channel?  I read in that link I posted that there were people who still support its authenticity, but it seemed to me like it was an issue that was in the realm of the Davinci Code or National Treasure conspiracies.  Maybe I'm wrong about that.  But wouldn't it be pretty shocking if it were confirmed that Vikings traveled all the way to the Midwestern U.S. some 100 years before Columbus arrived?  Wouldn't it be examined by more serious scholars if the evidence was there?

    October 20, 2009 at 3:14 am #16827 Reply
    Wally
    Participant

    Early in my teaching career I had a lesson that used the story as an example as how our hypothesis must change as we get newer evidence. Several times the new evidence was so far from conventional wisdom or was misinterpreted which lead investigators astray. As you say serious scholars should be looking, but most really don't want to appear fools for chasing this one.Several points in the HC program were approached very scientifically by a geologist to confirm the age of the stone (weather for age of runes and root patterns for burial duration). Just too many things to totally discount it as far as I can see. 'nother one of those things I'd like to hope are really true just because it is such a cool story. At least Ohman wasn't trying to get on a reality show… when they told him it was fake he just shrugged, then went back to the farm and the stone became a stepping stone in the barnyard, so the story goes.  :-

    November 3, 2009 at 2:48 pm #16828 Reply
    Aetheling
    Participant

    I'v heard that early Viking settlements happened in an area called L'Anse aux Meadows in what is now the northernmost tip of the island of Newfoundland in the Canadian province of Newfoundland and Labrador. Did they send some scouts to Minnesota initiating some ritual games such games of chance in which each player has one or more cards printed with differently numbered squares on which to place markers when the respective numbers are drawn and announced by a caller. The first player to mark a complete row of numbers is the winner. ?  ???

    November 3, 2009 at 3:33 pm #16829 Reply
    Wally
    Participant

    No, according to most of the stories the expd. was sent to contact a “lost” colony… hadn't reported back or had left Christianity (depends on the version). Sent by King Magnus Eriksson of Sweden and Norway and commanded by a law officer named Paul Knutsson. The order may or may not have been carried out. We are left hanging, as in the case of the Vivaldi Bros.  ???

    November 4, 2009 at 5:16 pm #16830 Reply
    Aetheling
    Participant

    This reminds me about 1421: The Year China Discovered America, a book written by retired submarine commander and amateur historian Gavin Menzies.  😛

    November 4, 2009 at 5:23 pm #16831 Reply
    Wally
    Participant

    Indeed; he has an interesting and thought provoking hypothesis.  8)

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