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  • November 25, 2010 at 6:56 am #2506 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    So you've probably heard that when you go to an airport now, you can choose either to have them xray your naked body, or have you go through the “groping” line.  On a lesser scale, you can either agree to have Google take photos of your home for Google Street View, or you can have your home blurred out and get egged by pro-Google goons (at least in Germany).

    November 25, 2010 at 4:25 pm #23180 Reply
    Aetheling
    Participant

    I don't know why but this kind of “improvement” make me think about the Nineteen Eighty-Four of George Orwell … Paranoia ?  ???

    November 25, 2010 at 4:51 pm #23181 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    Paranoia ?

    no

    November 30, 2010 at 9:24 am #23182 Reply
    scout1067
    Participant

    It is another step down the slippery slope of loss of all of our civil rights.  We are correct to be paranoid.  I would not object if they could come up with a better reason than it is a response to their (classified) threat assessment.  To me it smacks of a presumption of guilt on the part of all air travellers.

    December 2, 2010 at 3:29 pm #23183 Reply
    Wally
    Participant

    …. To me it smacks of a presumption of guilt on the part of all air travellers.

    For me: better to profile and only assume the guilt of a portion of air travellers.

    December 2, 2010 at 3:48 pm #23184 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    Can't wait to see what's in store for us after they find a bomb up a terrorist's butt.

    December 2, 2010 at 5:00 pm #23185 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    Can't wait to see what's in store for us after they find a bomb up a terrorist's butt.

    Didn't they already find something like that?  That's why they say that the current type of searching won't do any good.  Ann Coulter had a good article about this, and she argued this is why the “large net” approach is flawed and that the reasonable approach is to profile and ask questions.

    December 2, 2010 at 6:09 pm #23186 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    I thought they were doing the patdowns because of the underwear bomber.  I think he only had it taped to his underwear and not inside him anywhere.And since these TSA x-rays can't see internal organs, why can't a terrorist just swallow a bomb or something?  They smuggle drugs that way afterall.

    December 3, 2010 at 1:18 am #23187 Reply
    garbanzo
    Participant

    I think it being Christmastime makes a big difference also, as I remember being in Portland, OR last year when the underwear dude caused that big scare. I'm traveling to see my family out east this year and am so angered by TSA body scanners and “enhanced” pat-downs equally that I am not opting out simply of one or the other, I am opting out of flying altogether. Unfortunately it's going to take 3 days longer though lol.

    December 3, 2010 at 8:18 am #23188 Reply
    scout1067
    Participant

    They busted a guy in Saudia Arabia I think with a bomb up his butt.  Here is the link:Qaeda assassin.  That is actually pretty imaginative if you think about it and really no different in concept from people that smuggle heroin in condoms they swallow or otherwise insert..

    December 7, 2010 at 1:28 am #23189 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    Oh yay!Frankenbombers are 'new kind of terrorism': Al Qaeda hopes to surgically implant bombs into thugsProfile, people, when are we gonna start profiling?

    December 7, 2010 at 8:56 am #23190 Reply
    scout1067
    Participant

    Oh yay!Frankenbombers are 'new kind of terrorism': Al Qaeda hopes to surgically implant bombs into thugsProfile, people, when are we gonna start profiling?

    We cant profile because that is RACIST.  Havent you been drinking your kool-aid recently. 😀  I am waiting for us to be smart and start profiling and conducting thorough background checks on suspicious people.  I am not holding my breath though.

    December 7, 2010 at 6:38 pm #23191 Reply
    Vulture6
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    I thought they were doing the patdowns because of the underwear bomber.  I think he only had it taped to his underwear and not inside him anywhere.And since these TSA x-rays can't see internal organs, why can't a terrorist just swallow a bomb or something?  They smuggle drugs that way afterall.

    This new procedure cannot be related to the underwear bomber – Secretary Napolitano told us that the system worked in regards to the underwear bomber.  So, if the system worked, why would we institute these new procedures to counter that threat?Now, for the serious question, after going through the “enhanced patdown” do you need to confess to your spouse?  Would that constitute “cheating”?Okay, really, now for a truly serious question – I have a fair amount of metal in my body and I set of magnometers on a routine basis – so I have been getting the old fashioned “un-enhanced” pat down for years.  With the new machine that “sees under our clothes” do we still have to pass through the metal detector?  In other words, going through the new scanner will I still be required to go through additional screening because of the metal in my body?

    December 7, 2010 at 9:25 pm #23192 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    This new procedure cannot be related to the underwear bomber – Secretary Napolitano told us that the system worked in regards to the underwear bomber.  So, if the system worked, why would we institute these new procedures to counter that threat?

    That's a good point.  I'm surprised at how far we've gone in terms of the things we've had to accept as airline passengers.  And in the end, at least sometimes, it's really only the last line of defense which saves us (rather than the government).  I refer to the passengers who subdued the show bomber on that flight across the Atlantic.I got a joke email a few days ago about the best way to deal with the problem – by having all passengers go through a gate at the airport that would send a signal across their bodies which would detonate any explosives.  That would certainly be the most swift way of preventing bombs on flights ever again.

    January 29, 2011 at 8:36 pm #23193 Reply
    scout1067
    Participant

    Looks like Big Brother has decided that Airports cannot be responsive to their customers and opt out of the TSA for contractors.  TSA shuts door on private airport screening program  I really like the weaselly excuse the TSA director gives for cutting the program,“I examined the contractor screening program and decided not to expand the program beyond the current 16 airports as I do not see any clear or substantial advantage to do so at this time.”  Hmmm, I wonder how much input the Government Employees Union had on this decision?  And liberals ay the right wants a police state, HA! I say again HA!

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