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September 18, 2014 at 2:59 pm #3823
Let's put this vote to a, er…vote! Will the UK be broken up? Quite the historic vote. Visions of William Wallace in my mind.September 18, 2014 at 3:18 pm #30208Deep PurpleParticipant
It's easy to get caught up in the historic romanticism of the medieval Anglo-Scottish wars and forget that the two states have shared a common monarch for over 400 years and been a United Kingdom for more than 300. In this century, I suspect that economy trumps nationalism — which is why I think the Scots will reject independence and remain with the UK.September 18, 2014 at 4:03 pm #30209AethelingParticipant
I don't think the “Yes” for independence will prevail. Even the French are laughing at this idea (see below: from a satyrical website)What would be the real advantages for such an independence today? I don't see any.UK is a democracy, are the Scots suffering prejudice from London? Once independence would be gained, what next? A better life for all? In Belgium we have the same kind of problem between a wealthy North (Flemish) and poorer South (Wallonia) mainly due to economic factors. Independence can bring some self satisfaction first but on the long term, is this really an asset when you consider the political context? Is Scotland suffering about prejudice like the 13 colonies from a remote continent during the 18th century? Let's be seriousWait and see but good luck if independence will prevail.Auld AllianceSeptember 18, 2014 at 4:24 pm #30210
Hmmm….the sentiments here so far are that Scotland will remain in the UK. Last I checked, though, the tide seemed to be inching toward independence (though I could be wrong). We'll see shortly.September 18, 2014 at 4:46 pm #30211DonaldBakerParticipant
I don't see the Scots leaving at the end of the day. It would be hard on their people to go it alone, but Scotsman are notoriously stubborn folks.September 18, 2014 at 6:34 pm #30212
The Scots would be stupid in the extreme to vote for independence.September 18, 2014 at 8:57 pm #30213skiguyModerator
I agree with Scout. If Scotland votes for independence they will be just as bad off or worse than Northern Ireland.September 19, 2014 at 12:35 am #30214
Looks like it's 54% against, 46% for…..September 19, 2014 at 6:30 am #30215
Well, it appears that collectively the Scots are not morons. I wonder though is this vote will have knock on effects throughout the EU. I have already heard rumblings about Catalan in Spain wanting the same opportunity. Can it be long before the Wallons start demanding a referendum? There are plenty of ethnic groups in Europe that could clamor for self-determination as the Scots did. It is Wilson's ideal of national self-determination taken to it's logical extreme. Heck I can even envision the Sorbs clamoring for a vote in Germany. After all, the Sorbs are Germany's Indians since they were here first.September 19, 2014 at 2:21 pm #30216
What are you basing the “moronic” designation upon? Purely economics?September 19, 2014 at 2:38 pm #30217AethelingParticipant
Agree with you, Scout however it's not the Walloons who would call for a referendum but the Flemish: the north (Flanders) being much wealthier than the south (Wallonia).September 22, 2014 at 9:59 am #30218
I think it iwll be interesting to see how many secession movements spring up (if any) in the wake of the Scotland vote. Lord knows there are ethnic divisions enough among Europeans. There is even a lively movement in Germany to separate Franconia from Bavaria and have it be it's own Bundesland.