November 21, 2013 at 7:10 pm #3680
So, the Democrats in the Senate have now reversed a rule that stood for over 200 years by allowing for a mere majority vote for approval of certain appointments. Seems like a classic case of being unable to win by the rules, and therefore changing the rules themselves in order to win.Reid, Democrats trigger ‘nuclear’ option; eliminate most filibusters on nomineesDoesn't history tell us what a dark road the Democrats have now traversed in doing this? Discuss.November 21, 2013 at 9:49 pm #29501DonaldBakerParticipant
Obama's dictatorship is nearly complete.November 22, 2013 at 3:35 am #29502
Reminds me of the exchange from A Man for All Seasons:
Sir Thomas More: What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!November 22, 2013 at 9:27 am #29503
History does indeed tell us that. The question then becomes “how many people really pay attention to history anymore?” I would hazard to guess that it is not many and the History Channel is no help here. Actually reading what the Founders wrote instead of tossing around pithy quotes is very passe. I have read the Federalist Papers, how many other people have?The coming 10-15 years is going to be very interesting. Does anybody want to lay odds on the outbreak of Civil War II?November 22, 2013 at 11:30 am #29504skiguyModerator
Odds favor another world war first.It's not Obama, it's that one man Harry Reid who is destroying the country.November 22, 2013 at 11:32 am #29505
I would disagree. The odds of a world war are actually fairly low despite all the fear mongering about Iran, Russia, and China. The odds of a civil war are qactually fairly high in my opinion.November 22, 2013 at 2:03 pm #29506skiguyModerator
A significantly weakened America would more likely lead to a world war. We have already, or are pretty close, to destroying ourselves from within. That's my reasoning for saying this rather than Civil war.November 22, 2013 at 2:07 pm #29507
World War = who against who? The US has already shown itself to be at worst toothless and at best inconsistent since 9/11. The US can no longer claim sole superpower status as we are not really a superpower anymore. The US has shown itself itself to be a bully who half-a#%e$ any war we get into, does not follow through on promises made, and abandons or betrays the trust long-time allies. Who really wants to be an ally of America under the current leadership? What they really hope is that the children running American foriegn policy forget they exist.November 22, 2013 at 4:40 pm #29508
But wouldn't a toothless U.S. be an even greater invitation for some other nation to increase its aggression? I'm not wagering on the likelihood of a world war, but I do think that the decline of American power will signal the rise of reckless behavior by other nations which fear us less – perhaps China, Russia, Iran, etc. Heck, it probably has already.As for civil war - would it even get that far? Federal power is such that it would seem to leave little room for an oppressed minority to assert its rights in a sovereign way. The government will fine the opposition until it complies, leaving it with few resources left in its pocket. I'm guessing that the remaining folks who don't comply will be rounded up and put into prison.Oh, and we should remember why all of this is happening - so that liberals can create their liberal utopia. I suppose if there is a silver lining with Obamacare, it will be that its likely failure will be evidence that the liberal utopian vision does not work.November 22, 2013 at 5:37 pm #29509
I am not convinced that most foreign countries were ever really happy about American intervention with a few notable exceptions, South Korea and Israel. The decline of US power is a done deal unless current trends change radically in the next 2-3 years. Not only is the military downsizing, training is being cut, end-strength is being cut, acquisition is pretty much stopped, and even worse, equipment losses from the decade of wasted war is not being made good. I am sure that is what liberals want.As to Civil War, I would not count it out. In fact, if I had to lay odds, I would guess the chances of Civil War in the next 10 years to be somewhere around 3 for 5. It is not just Obamacare and welfare spending driving that perception on my part. It is the routine violation of personal liberties that happens, at the airport, traffic stops, just about whenever. It is the imperial executive and their predilection for rule-making. Heck, even schools are now telling parents what they can put in their kids lunches. The average American is not free so much as allowed to think they are. just look at what happened in Boston, they locked down an entire neighborhood and brought people out of their houses at gunpoint for warrantless searches.I always think of what I have to go through to get into the country as a proxy or everything else. Going through US customs or even an American airport is painful at best. The slow erosion of liberties is really starting to get on some people. What I think will happen is that the tyranny loving libs will overreach and provoke a reaction. I also think any civil war will start at the State level and not among groups of individuals. The federal government is it's own worst enemy right now and it is busy going out of its way to anger the portion of the population that knows how to fight and be productive. Very smart that. All America needs right now is a charismatic person willing to stand up and say enough.Yes, I think Civil War is a distinct possibility.November 22, 2013 at 5:49 pm #29510
Stories like these are what I am talking about when I say our liberties are being chipped away.CALIFORNIA SMOKING BAN SAID TO BE MOST STRINGENT IN U.S. and FOLDED-UP APRON MISTAKEN FOR HANDGUN, MALL PUT ON LOCKDOWNGarbage like this happens every day and it is often not the Feds responsible for it. Government itself seems to have become the disease without a cure.November 22, 2013 at 7:00 pm #29511
The decline of US power is a done deal unless current trends change radically in the next 2-3 years. Not only is the military downsizing, training is being cut, end-strength is being cut, acquisition is pretty much stopped, and even worse, equipment losses from the decade of wasted war is not being made good.
So in your opinion, is Obama/Democrats cutting the military for the purpose of decimating America's armed forces from within? I'm asking because I've heard the idea floated before that Obama is intentionally leading America downhill.November 23, 2013 at 7:43 am #29512
So in your opinion, is Obama/Democrats cutting the military for the purpose of decimating America's armed forces from within? I'm asking because I've heard the idea floated before that Obama is intentionally leading America downhill.
Is there anything else that explains what he has done? Even I can't believe he is that incompetent.November 23, 2013 at 3:45 pm #29513DonaldBakerParticipant
Obama gets his marching orders from the DNC, the major Banks and Corporations, and certain ideologically driven think tanks who hate the constitution. He is a front man for these un-elected influences who want to incorporate America into a U.N. led world government.November 23, 2013 at 5:34 pm #29514
Obama gets his marching orders from the DNC, the major Banks and Corporations, and certain ideologically driven think tanks who hate the constitution. He is a front man for these un-elected influences who want to incorporate America into a U.N. led world government.
Your conspiracy falls apart due to complexity. It does not need to be that complex. His actions and inactions are easily explained by a deep seated hatred of freedom and a belief that he and his fellow travelers know what is best. Like Stalin, Mao, Trotsky, Lenin, Pol Pot, and Hitler before him he is convinced he is the only holder of what my Biology teacher would have called Big-T truth.
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